# Proton vs. Neutron

According to TOEBI, both protons and neutrons consist of three plain vanilla electrons. As we know protons and neutrons behave differently if we put them into a magnetic field. In this post we go through some properties and differences between protons and neutrons.

First of all, both particles have approximately the same mass, $1.67262178*10^{-27}$ kg for proton and $1.67492735*10^{-27}$ kg for neutron. Why neutron is a bit heavier than proton if both are constructed by three electrons? What reduces neutron’s charge? These two questions might have the same answer.

Let’s start from the basics. How three electrons manage to stay together when they normally would repel each other away? Obviously something prevents the expected behaviour and most likely it’s the FTE density outside the three electrons, at least it’s difficult to invent anything else compatible with TOEBI ideas. It means that the FTE density in between the electrons must be lower than the outer density because if it were higher, the density would prevent the stable system. Just like a nucleus generates high enough FTE density which blocks electrons from crashing into it.

According to previously described mechanism those three electrons experience acceleration outwards their system, but the higher outer FTE density prevents them from escaping the system, hence protons and neutrons are stable. Well, neutrons are stable only in nucleus and also that phenomenon needs an explanation.

What kind of setups those three electrons can possess inside proton or neutron? Based on proton and neutron behaviour in a magnetic field there is two possible setups, either they all have the parallel spinning vector orientations (u-u-u) or one of the electrons has antiparallel spinning vector orientation compared to others (u-u-d). How come? Well, the spinning vectors can’t be at random orientations because protons’ and neutrons’ consistent behaviour in a magnetic field. Ok then, which setup belongs to proton and which one to neutron? Neutrons react in lesser extend to a magnetic field than protons, that’s a clue… In TOEBI, the only reasonable mechanism explaining that would be that neutrons have two electrons with parallel spinning vector orientations and one electron with antiparallel spinning vector orientation (u-u-d). Such a setup would reduce neutron’s reactivity in a magnetic field (e.g. $g$-factor). One electron works against the other two which leads to the observed reduced charge of neutron.

How do these two different electron spinning vector orientation setups affect proton and neutron mass? What exactly is particle mass? In TOEBI papers I have defined mass as being the cross section of a particle. But that’s not the whole truth, also the amount of FTEPs contained around the particle matters, it must matter. If we take a look at for example muon and tau particles, both of them have an underlying electron at their core surrounded by a larger amount of FTEPs than in case of electron, hence muon and tau have the bigger mass than electron. However, those heavier versions of electrons lose their excess FTEPs pretty quickly according to their decay patterns. The bottom line is that the particle mass includes also those FTEPs associated with the particle (spherical object having the boundary where background FTE density equals the lowest FTE density of the particle).

Back to the differences between proton and neutron. Does the electron spinning vector orientation setup of neutron (u-u-d) generate the bigger mass ( = more FTEPs contained) than proton’s setup (u-u-u)? If so, why? Observably the electron spinning vector orientation setup of neutron generate bigger mass than of proton’s.

The reason for neutron’s bigger mass must be related to the larger distances between neutron’s inner electrons which is due to lower FTE density in between the electrons compared to proton’s. Proton’s three electrons have a parallel spinning vector orientation which generates higher inner FTE density than neutron’s three electrons (u-u-d). Proton’s higher inner FTE density means that the density difference between the inner and outer volume is smaller than of neutron’s which leads to the smaller acceleration for those three electrons, hence the smaller distances between proton’s electrons.

Neutron’s a bit larger volume compared to proton’s is due to a bit larger distances between the inner electrons. How much is the difference? Unfortunately I haven’t developed TOEBI further enough in order to answer that. Nevertheless, above description is TOEBI’s view on proton and neutron.

What makes neutron decay when out of atom nucleus? Why can’t neutron and electron create an atom? I think those questions deserve the blog post of their own!

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## 11 thoughts on “Proton vs. Neutron”

1. acuba says:

Hi !

This is awesome, thanks for this great work!

I’m looking for some alternatives to the so called standard model, and I would like to present yours on a seminar, quoting you of course. Can you transmit me the calculations that led to your results? Or publish them here?

Thanks,

Acuba

2. Hi Acuba!

Friend of Yop perhaps? At least you are from the same university. What kind of seminar you are talking about? Who is hosting it and when/where the seminar is going to happen? (just my curiosity)

3. acuba says:

I don’t know who Yop is, sorry. Ain’t that a yoghourt brand? I also didn’t know that my IP would be tracked. That’s kind of… Hem… Anyway…

This would probably be some kind of informal seminar. I don’t think the university would approve, so I just want to rent a conference room and invite some students to show them what’s presented to them has alternatives.

But what’s missing in a lot of theories is reliable calculus. You’re the first I see to announce such brilliant results with mathematical backup. So I wish that you could give me those calculations. Maybe you could publish a few figures, showing the repulsion force evolution vs electrons spins frequency and distance between them?

4. Comment, IP and clear hostname are always delivered by WordPress to me when there is new comment, so I don’t pick them up from any logs.

5. asd says:

So do you already have at least some level of theory about FTE dynamics?

6. @asd I’m working on it. The problem is that even if I manage to work that out thoroughly then what? I mean that “road” is far too long for me. I’m much more interested in developing new methods for proton annihilation. It won’t require me to go through all the physics just to make a point.

7. asd says:

The problem is that if you refer to some very vague FTE wihout any proper explanation of its physics, your work based solely on that concept is hardly noteworthy. To make a point about proton annihilation, you should either produce a complete theory which makes at least somehow reasonable predictions or at least exhibit some new phenomena to accompany your handwaving.

8. … or at least exhibit some new phenomena to accompany your handwaving.

That’s the plan. On the other hand, if I’m right, are we ready for it? Seriously speaking, presenting new low energy trigger phenomenon related to proton annihilation most likely opens some sort of Pandora’s box. If I manage to figure it out can I hold the secret? I doubt that. The best option might be just forget the whole thing. Even though mainstream particle physics might be based on wrong interpretations at least it’s “safe”.

9. acuba says:

@Kimmo: I don’t understand, do you think my request is inappropriate? I’m sorry if it sounds so. I just wanted to help diffuse your idea.

I don’t understand the discussion with asd. What is wrong with the FTE dynamics?

10. No problem Acuba. I’m focused on antimatter related stuff at the moment so I don’t have any interest or time for going through TOEBI with strangers, sry.

11. acuba says:

I understand, but I’m just asking for figures or images you probably already have of your simulation results. If you just posted them as you got them, it would make a much better blogpost, and it’s like five minutes of your time…

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